I Finally got Chipped today... :)

[FactorX]

GIAC X+ 93 octane programming...

... The GTI will hit 60mph just under 6k rpm in second gear now... before it was up around 6.5/7k...

it breaks loose... very. very. VERY easily in first and second... i didn't have good conditions (too much traffic today) to get up into 3rd and 4th... maybe later if it dries up a bit...

I am a happy camper!

(With this chip I estimate I've got 230+ hp and 260+ ft/lbs of torque at the wheels with my current setup)

[TheDarkSide]

I want a ride :germanflag:

[BurntGauge]

Where did you buy your GIAC?

[Kevlar]

How could a chip change your gearing...? You should still be hitting 60 at the same engine speed, you'll just be climbing through the revs faster.

[LDadrenaline]

YAYERS!

[TheDarkSide]

:werd:

[boob]

Congrats and enjoy. Be careful with the new found power.:thumbu:

[FactorX]

I got it done at Suncoast Motorsports in Sarasota... where I bought the car back in January.

The programming doesn't change the gearing... it greatly increases the amount of power through the entire band... 30 more hp and 60 more pounds of torque is a big increase when you start with around 200 of each...

[RPM Photography]

But your RPM at a certain speed in whichever gear will never change?

[LDadrenaline]

it does because you get more power for the rpm you are at. I know when I added my accessport I got up to about 32-33 mph in first gear and before I could only get to like 28 or 29

[Kevlar]

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Uh, no LD, you're wrong.

It doesn't matter what kind of power you're making. Gearing is fixed. For every X rotations of the crankshaft, there will always be Y rotations of the wheels for a given gear. Multiply the gear ratio by the final drive ratio, and you have the effective gear ratio. If, for example, it's 4.0, that means that for every 4 rotations of the crankshaft, the wheels spin once. That will never change, without changing the gears themselves. It's a fixed proportionality.

LD, don't forget that the Accessport Stage 2 raises the rev-limiter. More RPM = more speed.

[LDadrenaline]

I didn't bounce off the rev limiter though, I always shift at 6800, and there definately was a difference. You never got to test it out with me so I guess you couldn't see, but in the same gear I picked up 3-5 mph shifting at the same point. I mean, I know you're right because 99.9% of the time you are, but I'm just telling you what happened.

In fact, I bounced off the rev limiter only like twice ever and both times were during an autoX. My dad on the other hand mustve liked the bouncing sound, because he used to ride it all day (which really made me teary eyed) lol.

[Kevlar]

Well then I guarantee you weren't shifting at the same point, if you were going 3-5 mph faster. It doesn't matter if you crawl up to 6800 RPM at 20% throttle, or blast up there at WOT, you'll still be going the same speed when you get there. The only possibility, other that just a slightly greater perception of speed from the greater power, is that with more power, you had more momentum at redline, so once you put the clutch in to shift to 2nd (probably about when you're going to look at the tach), the car will continue to accelerate slightly while out of gear, and might be going a few mph faster when you put it into 2nd.

[FactorX]

One possibility is that the chip has affected/corrected the indicated speedometer error... from the factory its around 8% error (yes, eek!).

All i know is that its definitely making a lot more power... and I see the speedo hit 60 before the 2nd gear redline... where i used to be well into it before chipping...

[LDadrenaline]

I didn't think of the spedometer error thing...

But yeah idk what was up, I'm just saying what I saw

[SlickShift]

I wish I could get 30hp and 60ft/lbs tq from a chip. When I chip my car I'll get about 2hp. Natural aspiration FTL :cry:

[FactorX]

3 cheers for... TURBO! :)

:thumbu:

I wish it was dry outside... I wish it was dry outside... I wish it...

[carguy101]

I should tell my friend about yor chip cus he has a Mark V how much was it?

[BurntGauge]

One possibility is that the chip has affected/corrected the indicated speedometer error... from the factory its around 8% error (yes, eek!).


Actually the speedo error varies depending on your speed. Check this:

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But I am really glad to hear that your speedo error is fixed. Do you think it's only the GIAC that helps it or maybe the APR could?

[FactorX]

I have no idea about APR... other than my dealership doesn't support or carry their products anymore... no warranty support...

it was 550+ tax... I'm getting the flash loader in a couple weeks when they get them in from GIAC... (and the extra programs), so I can switch from 93 octane to stock, security, valet, or race fuel modes... :)

[LDadrenaline]

Yeah spedometers are normally off exponentially. Mine was off a mph per 20 mph. i.e. 40=38, 80=76

[BurntGauge]

Yeah spedometers are normally off exponentially. Mine was off a mph per 20 mph. i.e. 40=38, 80=76

Yea normally they are, but doesnt that piss you off that when you're going 80 on your speedo...you're really not? I mean, that might be my naivety coming from Japanese cars where if it said 80, it was 80 or at least w/in 2 mph.

[LDadrenaline]

well mine was because I put on lower profile tires. Switched from 55s to 45s.

[Kevlar]

LD, if it was 1 mph for every 20, that's not exponential :P. That's pretty linear. ie Indicated Speed = Actual Speed + Actual Speed/20. Or, Indicated = 21/20 * Actual. But you're not the math whiz, so it's ok.

[SlickShift]

Usually speedos on European-made cars are off ~5%. Just like when my speedo said I was going 135mph and the limiter is 128mph.

[FactorX]

i figured that when I hit indicated 140 I wasn't going near that fast...

I don't know for certain if the chip has corrected this... but at 80 I don't get milage quite as good as before (cruising in 6th gear).

I do know it lifts the 130 mph governor though...

[BurntGauge]

I don't know for certain if the chip has corrected this... but at 80 I don't get milage quite as good as before (cruising in 6th gear).

Do you have climatronic or an external GPS? They could tell you your actual speed. If not, you could always set the cruise at given speed like lets say 80 mph. Use a stopwatch to measure 15 mins exactly. Lets say your distance in 15 mins was 20 miles. 20x4 (to make a full hour)= 80 miles; in essence you are doing 80 mph.

If not, there's always pace your buddy who KNOWS his speedo works and compare w/yours.

[TheDarkSide]

You can always use the mile markers and stop watch :dunno:

[Kevlar]

Or you could find one of those radar speed signs, like the one they have on bayshore. Of course, I'm not so sure you want to be testing your speedo's accuracy at 80 mph with that sign (40 mph zone, haha).

[TheDarkSide]

I dont trust those over a mile marker or GPS unit though :dunno:

[FactorX]

... i'm really not that worried about it... regardless, the car is a lot faster... dyno results should be interesting if I make it out to Orlando in a couple weeks... :)

[Mr.bimmerPuck]

german FTW #1 WoOT!!

[tiger8u]

... i'm really not that worried about it... regardless, the car is a lot faster... dyno results should be interesting if I make it out to Orlando in a couple weeks... :)

Have you dyno'd your car since you got it? I have a miltek 2.75"catback and the GIACX+ chip and a preorder for the EVOMS intake just waiting to get it. I think the chip kicks ass I am getting the switcher Friday too. The gas mileage definately went down with the chip and I'm looking forward to leaving it in stock mode for daily driving and being able tto switch it at a light for some quick acceleration when needed. I was also wondering if the audi throttle pipe makes a big difference or not? Also is it just the pipe right after the airbox or is it the pipe on the oposite side after the turbo?

[FactorX]

the audi pipe is between the intercooler and throttle body (driver side low to middle top of engine in front).

I will be dynoing in the next few weeks.

[tiger8u]

You know there is a dyno in Tampa actually a few of them a lot closer than going all the way to Orlando. Also have you noticed your car backfiring when the ESP engages since the cars been chipped if I ever forget and leave that crap on it backfires almost everytime it breaks loose. Also good choice of colors I have he same with the 6spd also package #1 sunroof with the cool interlagos cloth and with the Huff wheels.

[FactorX]

... I have never noticed a backfire under any conditions... before or after the chip...

I got the 17s because there really wasn't a choice... only 4 cars to choose from, i wanted manual and cloth interior... I don't mind though, I'm not a huge fan of the pizza cutters... though they do look HOT polished...

[TheDarkSide]

:confused: Pizza Cutters?

[FactorX]

http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/28948/inline_05.jpg <--Pizza Cutters aka Huffweisens... 18" wheel option on the MkV GTI and GLI

[tiger8u]

I love 'em . . . I get tons of compliments on them everywhere I go.

[TheDarkSide]

Oh nice :love:

[carguy101]

Or you could find one of those radar speed signs, like the one they have on bayshore. Of course, I'm not so sure you want to be testing your speedo's accuracy at 80 mph with that sign (40 mph zone, haha).


Try to set the high score!!!:headbang: :woot: