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A4ringedONE8T
06-12-2006, 09:23 PM
USRT Stage 2 Water Methynol Injection With MAP Controller ... my latest addition to my mod list!!

Heres a link to the install I did on Audizine

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=104036

And a link to USRT's site for the water/meth injection

http://www.usrallyteam.com/wainj.html

And last my updated mod list :D

* K04 - 15 * APR K04 Software * Bosch OEM 225TT 386cc Injectors * O.CT FMIC * Neuspeed Cat-Back Exhaust * USRT Stage II Water/Methanol Injection & MAP Controller * ECS Tuning 12.3" Two Piece Floating Slotted/X-Drilled Rotors * OEM 3.0 Carriers * ECS Tuning Slotted Rear Rotors * Hawk Ceramic Pads * APR Compressor Inlet Hose * APR Throttle Body Hose * APR Snub Mount * B&M Short Shift * Forge 004 BOV * Forge UNOS Manual Boost Controller * Sevas S-15 19x8.5 * Toyo FZ4 225/35/19 * Kerscher Carbon Fiber Splitter * S4 Grill * S4 Matte Mirror Caps * MTM 15mm Spacers - Rear * H-Sport S4 35mm Front 24mm Adj. Rear Sway Bars * H&R Sport Springs * Texon 8500K HID's * Greddy Turbo Timer * Autometer Cobalt Electronic Boost Guage * Alpine IVA-D310 7" Monitor/DVD * JL Audio 500/5 * JL Audio XR650-CSi Components * JL Audio 10W7 *

ENJOY!!!

Shawn


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kelso
06-12-2006, 09:37 PM
sounds good. i dont know many people who gets methanol injection so its nice to see someone who knows what will really help the performance a bit. nice buy
A4ringedONE8T
06-12-2006, 09:47 PM
Theres not much left as far as engine mods that I dont have. Trying to get everything I can out of this turbo before I upgrade again!

Stock K03 is good for 230hp, the K04 Im running is good for about 270 which im just slightly exceding now with the water/meth injection, getting close to upgrading yet again to either a GT28RS for about 400 or a GT2871R, good for about 450 ... of course these are all flywheel numbers :clap:
kelso
06-12-2006, 09:57 PM
nice. my friend wants to buy an s4 and get 2 ko4's on it. should be fun if he ever gets it
A4ringedONE8T
06-12-2006, 10:01 PM
B5 S4's with K04's make somewhere just over 400hp, its pretty expensive to do so though because most of the parts used are OEM from the RS4. The 2.7T is definitely one of the most potent Audi engines!!!!
LDadrenaline
06-12-2006, 10:34 PM
That's a nice kit right there. I know Kevlar and I had planned on doing a water or CO2 sprayer for the intercooler, but I hadn't thought about the meth/water injection. After about a week tell me how you like it!
A4ringedONE8T
06-12-2006, 10:42 PM
That's a nice kit right there. I know Kevlar and I had planned on doing a water or CO2 sprayer for the intercooler, but I hadn't thought about the meth/water injection. After about a week tell me how you like it!

So far its great! Havent had much time to play with the timing but I pushed it up 4 degrees and still not the slightest hint of detonation! After this stupid hurricane passes Ill play with it some more and do some A/F and timing logs!

Shawn
JCapelo
06-12-2006, 11:04 PM
awsome.....now some video footage would be nice
///Mental
06-13-2006, 12:41 AM
got my hopes up, thought you were talking about some new drugs or something.... cool nontheless though..
TheDarkSide
06-13-2006, 10:20 AM
Call me a noob, how does this work?
LDadrenaline
06-13-2006, 11:52 AM
I think you should come to the dyno day and since you get 3 pulls do some tests. Do the first one without it, second up 5 degrees, then 3rd up 10 degrees. I'd be really interested to see what kind of hp gains you get.
JonnyChimpO
06-13-2006, 01:55 PM
OOOOO tasty mod, if i give it more boost im might do the meth.
Gator911
06-13-2006, 02:03 PM
Good stuff shawn, let's go play around with it :)

W/A injection works off of a Hobb(Boost) switch. When the switch sees a certain boost level, it triggers the pump, which sprays the mixture into the intake stream...

The liquid cools the charge air and reduces detonation, and as a result, allows you to add more timing...More timing = More power.

W/A injection is useless for power purposes unless your motor is "maxing" out...

-Keith
FactorX
06-13-2006, 04:11 PM
Nice! Good write-up too!

... I need to get a decent paying moonlighting job so i can afford to play catch up... this is something I think would definitely be doable on my GTI...
A4ringedONE8T
06-13-2006, 06:01 PM
I think you should come to the dyno day and since you get 3 pulls do some tests. Do the first one without it, second up 5 degrees, then 3rd up 10 degrees. I'd be really interested to see what kind of hp gains you get.

When, where, and how much??
A4ringedONE8T
06-13-2006, 06:04 PM
Good stuff shawn, let's go play around with it :)

W/A injection works off of a Hobb(Boost) switch. When the switch sees a certain boost level, it triggers the pump, which sprays the mixture into the intake stream...

The liquid cools the charge air and reduces detonation, and as a result, allows you to add more timing...More timing = More power.

W/A injection is useless for power purposes unless your motor is "maxing" out...

-Keith

Call me! I just changed to the smaller nozzle, I had the 375cc in, but switched back to the 225cc. It felt like it was choking it out a bit at low boost. Im going to advance the timing 4 degrees and see what happens later tonight. I dont have a clue as to how far I can push it so I guess Ill start there and do some data logs of timing and A/F

Any idea of what flow rate you ran in the M3?
SlickShift
06-14-2006, 12:10 AM
Very interesting mod...Mercedes used water/methanol injection on their model 603 engines in fighter planes during WWII. :dunce: (senior project was on German engineering)
LDadrenaline
06-14-2006, 12:47 AM
When, where, and how much??

I don't remember the exact dat but there's a thread about it on here. I think it's in about 3 weeks at race related
A4ringedONE8T
06-14-2006, 08:27 PM
I don't remember the exact dat but there's a thread about it on here. I think it's in about 3 weeks at race related

Wheres that at? Find out the info for me and Ill try and get off work!
LDadrenaline
06-14-2006, 08:31 PM
http://www.floridagerman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427
A4ringedONE8T
06-14-2006, 09:15 PM
Nope cant get out of work that day, sorry!

As soon as I get to the dyno, Ill post the results and graphs!!
Gator911
06-14-2006, 10:48 PM
Shawn i can hook you up with dyno for $65 with AFR...Let me know!

-Keith
A4ringedONE8T
06-15-2006, 05:01 AM
I can go to CFT in Orlando, 3 pulls 45 bucks with A/F :D
LDadrenaline
06-15-2006, 11:25 AM
You'd drive all the way up to orlando to get it $20 cheaper than local??
A4ringedONE8T
06-15-2006, 12:52 PM
You'd drive all the way up to orlando to get it $20 cheaper than local??

I didnt know there was any place in Sarasota first off. And yes Id rather drive because ive been on that dyno before and know what I previously put down. If its a Mustang dyno Id consider going somewhere else. Dynojet's are too conservative and give high numbers. Mustang's and CFT's dyno are pretty true to what the car really is!