M6 Vert or 997TT

[M5Beast]

My mom likes the M6 convertible, but shes always wanted a Carrera, so she wants me to take her to test drive the 997TT... Comments, concerns, suggestions? Shes trading in her Escalade and Mr. Bo-jangles for her new car

Also would you suggest Bert Smith over Reeves? I know of this debate but never heard consensus of people trying Bert Smith or having experience there...

[///Mental]

i like the 997... but its your moms car, whatever shes gonna be comfortable in...

one of my teachers had nothing but good comments to say about bert smith, said they treated her very well...

good luck!

[sublimefan86]

the 997 would be sweet, but the m6 looks really good too... but i think if i had to choose between the two, i would go with the porsche.

[RPM Photography]

I would go with the 997 purely because...

Convertible + Sports Car = WTF

[Variance]

I've been to Bert Smith a few times, and have been quite satisfied with their service; I'd reccomend them.

[E31]

I worked at Bert Smith and would defenately buy a car there. The Porsche shop moved up in the national classification to one of the top ten in the nation from being second to last.

I would suggest for her to stick with the M6, the Porsche is unconfortable. We have a 996 4S and it's not a practical car....like the M6 is you're saying....but the M6 can be versatile and just as powerful with the comfort.

[ben]

I bought my M3 brand new from Bert Smith.

Did so at the recommendation of a local E46 M3 owner Chuck who bought his car brand new from Bert Smith, along with another E46 M3 owner Carlos / "Doctor M" who bought his car brand new from them.

They came recommended for their service department, which reminds me I need to call them right now as I'm up for inspection I.

Hopefully I can get a 335i loaner. Last time it was an E60 525 and before that a brand new E90 325i.

The M6 is going to be a SUPERIOR daily driver -- you're comparing a true GT car to a sports car :)

I personally would go for the 997TT as I already own the M3, but i'll be skipping Porsche altgoether.

Look for my posts on ferrarichat.com in about 5 years. ;)

[David A]

I would go with the 997 purely because...

Convertible + Sports Car = WTF

Well...I'm pretty sure the car is going to be automatic...so no matter what...

Automatic + Sports Car = WFT...

;)

My vote goes to the M6...I think your mom would like it more...it is her car afterall.

[TheDarkSide]

I would take the 997 but not in vert :thumbd:

[AwesomeBMW]

id go with the M6 Vert simply bc its more practical... the 997TT is a superb machine, but your mom probably wont be driving it like most of us here would be :D...

i used to get my car serviced at Bert Smith and loved the place and the people. talk to Sandra Meek in BMW sales, she is a great lady, beautiful, smart, tall and a great personality...

[Roy]

997TT in vert is gonna be like a years wait plus $150,000...
M6 vert is also gonna be a long time waiting, plus however much that'll run..


Why does she need such a performance vehicle? What's wrong with a carrera cab or a 645 vert? Does she really need 500hp??

[RPM Photography]

Automatic + Sports Car = WFT...



True. I wouldn't cal either of these cars auto though.

The M6 is SMG III, which I am sure you know is one of if not these fastest shifting sequential box out there.

The 997TT Automatic is actually faster than the manual.

[M5Beast]

Yeah its like .4 seconds faster in auto lol...

I'm not sure... My mom can drive a stick so I don't know which she'd want. I told her that the M6 is going to drive just like the M5, and that she should go test drive the 997 to see for herself. She's always liked the Maserati Quattraporte... which is a classy car but not for me... We'll see what she ends up likeing

[David A]

M6 vert is also gonna be a long time waiting, plus however much that'll run..
Why does she need such a performance vehicle? What's wrong with a carrera cab or a 645 vert? Does she really need 500hp??

Call me crazy...but I think I saw one in the local dealer showroom last night...I mean...I am almost positive it was one.

And to the bold...that's pretty much the same way I feel...

[M5Beast]

I saw a 997tt in the naples showroom... and to the bold... cause shes a balla son, she rides 20 inch spinnin blades on the that lade

[AzzMan]

I'd take the 997TT. Most of us probably would.

She should take the M6, because she's not like us in that regard.

[kelso]

personally i would get te 997tt but, for your mom id probably get a regular 6 series of her choice instead of the M. but if she likes the maserati, id rock that thing like crazy! the new one is supposed to be substantially better in every way than the old one.

[TheDarkSide]

911 Turbos will own bmw in just about everything. Screw BMW pride, that would be my choice.

[E31]

Not pride here, just for a woman,she'll need the comfort and space which the 977 doesn't have.

[A4 ABT]

hard to make a choice between those 2 cars..I think I'd go with the M6 because of the sick engine it has!

[TheDarkSide]

I thought she is keeping her escalade for that :)

[AwesomeBMW]

I saw a 997tt in the naples showroom... and to the bold... cause shes a balla son, she rides 20 inch spinnin blades on the that lade
dude if she is going to be riding rapper rims than she should get a non true performance driven automobile like the 997TT or the M6... she will lose handling, fun factor, ride quality and overall drivability with large rims that really dont need to be on an automobile of those sorts...

she should just get a 650i or a 997 Carrera 2 or 4

[AwesomeBMW]

hard to make a choice between those 2 cars..I think I'd go with the M6 because of the sick engine it has!
ya the M5/M6 V-10 did win one of the engine of the year awards for 2006... but the new Turbo may win something as well for its great engine...

[Roy]

Call me crazy...but I think I saw one in the local dealer showroom last night...I mean...I am almost positive it was one.

And to the bold...that's pretty much the same way I feel...
I don't doubt it, but it was probably already sold to someone, and if not, the mark up on it was probably at least 20k.. Car's like that don't just sit around you know??

IMHO, no car is worth an extra 20K over the price tag, just be smart and order one, or get on the list.. It's a waste to pay over for such a new car. Just wait a few months..


cause shes a balla son, she rides 20 inch spinnin blades on the that lade

I wouldn't go as far as saying that 20's are "balla"... :rofl:

[SlickShift]

997TT in vert is gonna be like a years wait plus $150,000...
M6 vert is also gonna be a long time waiting, plus however much that'll run..


Why does she need such a performance vehicle? What's wrong with a carrera cab or a 645 vert? Does she really need 500hp??

:werd:

[ben]

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997TT in vert is gonna be like a years wait plus $150,000...
M6 vert is also gonna be a long time waiting, plus however much that'll run..


Why does she need such a performance vehicle? What's wrong with a carrera cab or a 645 vert? Does she really need 500hp??




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Guys, nobody on EARTH needs a 500hp street car. Nobody.

Hell, the only people who might need 500hp are known as "professional race car drivers". Even a track junkie doesn't need a 500hp car to have fun.

99.9% of drivers cannot take advantage of the horsepower their cars have.

This figure jumps to 99.99999% when speaking of vehicles with 300, 400, and 500hp. Yes, this figure includes me too. I have yet to reach my car's limits and truly take advantage of my 333hp.

This is far beyond "need" :cheers:

[Roy]

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997TT in vert is gonna be like a years wait plus $150,000...
M6 vert is also gonna be a long time waiting, plus however much that'll run..


Why does she need such a performance vehicle? What's wrong with a carrera cab or a 645 vert? Does she really need 500hp??

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Guys, nobody on EARTH needs a 500hp street car. Nobody.

Hell, the only people who might need 500hp are known as "professional race car drivers". Even a track junkie doesn't need a 500hp car to have fun.

This is far beyond "need" :cheers:

This is true. Good point.

[SlickShift]

Good point...I just think it's a little unnecessary, especially with the mark up and that it'll hardly ever by used to its full potential.

[944attack]

i've pushed my car beyond 100% of it's potential :D

the result is blown motors and trannys :( :(


anyway I for the poll I would go with the bimmer, I only see a 997tt as being a hardcore race car in sheeps clothing (leather, CDplayer, A/C, etc.) and even I personally would not buy one unless I used it to it's maximum abilities or track events or something. As a daily driver the larger, more versatile M6 is much more reasonable especially as a "mom" car when comparing these two.

:highfive:

[ben]

i've pushed my car beyond 100% of it's potential :D

the result is blown motors and trannys :( :(


anyway I for the poll I would go with the bimmer, I only see a 997tt as being a hardcore race car in sheeps clothing (leather, CDplayer, A/C, etc.) and even I personally would not buy one unless I used it to it's maximum abilities or track events or something. As a daily driver the larger, more versatile M6 is much more reasonable especially as a "mom" car when comparing these two.

:highfive:

For those enthusiasts with the experience please chime in with your own comments, but from what I've gathered the 997tt isn't all that much of a "hardcore racecar".

I have seen people get the porsche turbo's and just up the boost for more straight line punch without ever thinking about how it may negatively affect their performance on the track. No offense to the people who do this, but they're taking the "race car" out of the equation once they've got enough torque to put the thing sideways at 100 ;)

I've seen more Porsche owners dis the turbo models in favor of the NA RWD models, hence they made the GT3.

My own experience with them was this past weekend at Sebring in a 996tt pushed to the performance edge by a great driver.

It wasn't all THAT great. I much more enjoyed zipping around in a NA 993 carerra.

The 996tt seemed to have a kind of softness to it that I didn't like. Plenty of torque, competent handling, the butt dyno sure felt that it was pushing faster in the straights, but it just didn't have a very good feel to it in the corners, it didn't seem like a very involving car. Wish I had a better explanation for it but I've got pretty limited experience here :dunno:

[M5Beast]

My moms knows about the space... shes just always wanted a carrera, we were really close to buying a 996 turbo ages ago with an aero kit on it, but got the hummer instead lol!

Its been told, idk she drives with a lead foot when shes by herself... lol but ya, shes always liked the carrera and the maserati quattraporte... and no she isn't going to put balla wheels on them, lol.

[M5Beast]

and as to why M6 over the non M.... because she can lol, and because I'm letting her sell Mr. Bo-jangles... and if shes gonna sell him I'd like to see her pushing a M6 at least lol or the 997TT over just a carrera S

[kelso]

i wouldnt say hardcore racecar, but its its got a great engine, good suspension and handling. its a great driving car either for the track or very spirited driving but its small and probably too uncomfortable for being a DD for most people. i personally kinda like a stiff suspension and harsh ride cause i know it handles great. about the sidewyas at 100 comment, i do agree for the most part but, if your driving an all out racecar, you want more power. too much power? well id have to say that just goes with driver skill or maybe being comfortable behind the wheel of a monster. basically, you just have to learn to be easy on the pedals and stuff to control the power so its not all or nothing and you just spin constantly. case in point for a car like this would be the dahlback golf. its a full track car, almost completely custom in every way, pushing 1200 horsepower. its so fast around the track its insane, but thats because they dont mash the pedal and just smoke the tires out of the corners. i feel like im rambling on right now so im shutting up

[ben]

and as to why M6 over the non M.... because she can lol, and because I'm letting her sell Mr. Bo-jangles... and if shes gonna sell him I'd like to see her pushing a M6 at least lol or the 997TT over just a carrera S

"letting"? ;)

[ben]

case in point for a car like this would be the dahlback golf. its a full track car, almost completely custom in every way, pushing 1200 horsepower. its so fast around the track its insane, but thats because they dont mash the pedal and just smoke the tires out of the corners. i feel like im rambling on right now so im shutting up

well, that kind of goes back to what I said earlier... i bet a guy driving a 1200hp car around a track at the limit is a paid professional :D

anyway, yeah rambling here now mabye some more Porsche owners can chime in ;)

[E31]

I don't like how the Porsche handles. I almost flew off a mountain twistie because of the handleing. At first it is responsive with a bit of oversteer, once it passes a very slim window of perfect steeing, it jumps to understeering, making skid marks in the pants. I'm sticking by my choice of an M6 or 650i.

[Garrett M]

My aunt drives a 996 and she dislikes it...

The clutch is heavy, the engine is loud, and has little to no space for luggage (shopping bags)...Of course these are the complaints of a women.

Id say M6

[JonnyChimpO]

For those enthusiasts with the experience please chime in with your own comments, but from what I've gathered the 997tt isn't all that much of a "hardcore racecar".

I have seen people get the porsche turbo's and just up the boost for more straight line punch without ever thinking about how it may negatively affect their performance on the track. No offense to the people who do this, but they're taking the "race car" out of the equation once they've got enough torque to put the thing sideways at 100 ;)

I've seen more Porsche owners dis the turbo models in favor of the NA RWD models, hence they made the GT3.

My own experience with them was this past weekend at Sebring in a 996tt pushed to the performance edge by a great driver.

It wasn't all THAT great. I much more enjoyed zipping around in a NA 993 carerra.

The 996tt seemed to have a kind of softness to it that I didn't like. Plenty of torque, competent handling, the butt dyno sure felt that it was pushing faster in the straights, but it just didn't have a very good feel to it in the corners, it didn't seem like a very involving car. Wish I had a better explanation for it but I've got pretty limited experience here :dunno:

Was there a mini at sebring..... red maybe

[kelso]

My aunt drives a 996 and she dislikes it...

The clutch is heavy, the engine is loud, and has little to no space for luggage (shopping bags)...Of course these are the complaints of a women.

Id say M6

in the porsches defense, ive been behind the wheel of a 997 turbo for a few moments and the clutch seemed great to me. i cant recall how the 996 felt, its been a long time since i drove one. the engine noise was perfect for my tastes, but i can see where some people dont like a loud engine.
im gonna stick with my maserati vote since thats in the equation, but she should definately go and drive all the cars shes interested in.

[Roy]

in the porsches defense, ive been behind the wheel of a 997 turbo for a few moments and the clutch seemed great to me. i cant recall how the 996 felt, its been a long time since i drove one. the engine noise was perfect for my tastes, but i can see where some people dont like a loud engine.
im gonna stick with my maserati vote since thats in the equation, but she should definately go and drive all the cars shes interested in.
99TT felt like a race on/off engagement, but was very, very light for such a HP car..

The 996's weren't that heavy to me, I got used to it pretty quick..I Personally like a heavy clutch, not extremely heavy, but not like to the point that it's like a gas pedal..I like having to use some force..
Engine noise same thing, it wasn't obtrusive, only if you kept it at high rpms, which Porsche's sound incredible at.

[Garrett M]

I prefer a heavy clutch and a loud engine...Im just saying some women dont.

[Garrett M]

Listen...not to sound rude but this just sounds like a good way to show off your money...These questions are always stupid. No one knows your mom and no one can pick her car for her. Go out and test drive each car, sit down talk to a dealer and let her pick what she likes. She is a grown women.....im sure shes capable of making her own decisions.

[944attack]

^ Damn straight.

[E31]

Listen...not to sound rude but this just sounds like a good way to show off your money...These questions are always stupid. No one knows your mom and no one can pick her car for her. Go out and test drive each car, sit down talk to a dealer and let her pick what she likes. She is a grown women.....i'm sure shes capable of making her own decisions.

You do have a point there, I agree. We miss the point that the car is for a woman, so we can like the sound and feel all day long, but the car is for a mom. Our friend in Italy has a new Maserati Quatroporte (upgrade from an older POS Audi A8) and it is nice my dad says. He basically drives them around when they go to dinner, so it is a nice sunday driver.

[kelso]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYIF2lfhFCI

listen to that and tell me you wouldnt want a maserati....the revs...oh man that engine....
however this is a whole different price bracket isnt it? are you sure she wants the quattroporte?

[rennteknik]

my mother had a similar dilema a few years ago.. ended up with a mercedes...

Porsche was to harsh for her.. the 6 series had a cloth top... s4 convertable had a cloth top..

it was really a no brainer for her..

the MB was head and shoulders above the other cars with its top up, and I think looks way better then the others with its top down.. conv speaking.

id tell her to look at the MB honestly...

[SlickShift]

I love the Quatroporte! If I had to money I would so rock one over a S-Class or 7er. :D

[AzzMan]

Quattroportes are hot, we all recognize this, I'd rock one over ANY other sedan any day of the week, except an E60 M5, but those aren't really designed for the same thing- at all.

[Garrett M]

except an E60 M5, but those aren't really designed for the same thing- at all....

[AzzMan]

The Quattroporte is more of a badass luxo-sport sedan, the M3 is less about the luxo, I'd rather have the M5 but I think it'd be much better having the Quattroporte.

[Garrett M]

The Quattroporte is more of a badass luxo-sport sedan, the M3 is less about the luxo, I'd rather have the M5 but I think it'd be much better having the Quattroporte.
M3?

The Quattroporte is no "luxo" with its cheap plasticy center counsul that looks like it came from an older Mercedes Benz, aluminum petals, and a gauge cluster/ steering wheel and stiched seats that resemble the inside of a ferrari.

They're both sport sedans with performance in mind while being designed...Nothing less and nothing more.

[M5Beast]

She liked the quattraporte but I didn't think anyone really thought it was a good car, thanks for the input, proved me wrong. The video was awsome btw, the rasp on the exhaust sounds nice... a bit less powerful than the M5, may be good for her, but idk like I said she likes to push the car when shes alone. I'll show her the video.

Oh and if this post is for anything its for my post count, and to see what others would think of what my mom drives and have any intel on how the car does in its life past a test drive... I always have to help them pick because they are indecisive... then again I am too sometimes

[whoyodaddy79]

Screw everything, just go ahead and get a carrera gt...You only live once.:germanflag:

[M5Beast]

lol yeaa thats a bit out of her budget hehe

[TheDarkSide]

What is a quattraporte?

[M5Beast]

its Maserati's version of the M5...

My mom isn't sure she can get used to driving a sports car anymore... shes used to the escalade and is scared of the brakes in the M5, says she can't get used to them and is afraid shes going to slam them and throw herself through the windshield :-/ lol

So I showed her the BMW X5 and the Range Rover...

She doesn't like the X5, but I showed her the Range Rover Sport Supercharged, and she wants to test drive that. Anyone have opinions? I'm not too knowledged on the Range Rover, I always thought they were way overpriced but the sport supercharged looks nice. 20x9.5s and brembo brakes. 390-400hp 4.0L V8. Dunno why the "sport" @ 57,000 is cheaper than the normal at 75,000? The sport looks better IMO

[kelso]

after thinking about hit, she would get used to the brakes very fast, and theres a reason she has a seatbelt, keeps you in the car, but if she wants an suv she wants an suv

[M5Beast]

I told her that too, she doesn't like to wear her seatbelt and it bothers me alot... :(

I like the new Range Rovers though, they're hot.... I'm kinda sad... I just realized instead of the M5, I coulda got a 1999 black 550 Maranello with 12k mi and tubi exhaust... :( really sad, the Maranello is my dream car... but its ok I guess, I wouldn't have been able to drive it daily, and I wouldn't have made alot of awsome friends thanks to getting a bmw!

[kelso]

:dunno: friends or ferrari..... i think its pretty obvious...:drive:
:shifty: on the no seatbelt issue, not cool

[David A]

You don't need a car to make friends...

[M5Beast]

Well I obviously wouldn't have joined FG if not, or would be your roommate, or know anyone on this website, or of its existence...

I'm happy with the friends I happen to come across from having the BMW, now I just know whenever the M5 has done its tour, itll get traded for a Maranello, and I'll get an old school 6er to bring to meets, maybe make it trackable

[TheDarkSide]

There was an old M6 at Reeves yesterday ;)

[LDadrenaline]

damn this is a long thread. I'd get the 997 tt. An M6 vert would be a waste, because you lose all the chassis rigidity which defeats the purpose of the low CF roof it normally has.

Also the verts look ugly as hell to me. The rear window looks retarted

[M5Beast]

true... no worries, I think my mom is leaning towards the Range Rover Sport Supercharged... the TopGear episode where he is running away from the British tank lol.

[LDadrenaline]

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[AwesomeBMW]

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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:cliffs::ban: :cliffs:
:ditto:

[M5Beast]

lol its far off, don't worry there are still going to be 997 and 6 series test drives. Gonna let my mom drive the M5 tomorrow to tampa and see if she can get used to it

[LDadrenaline]

do not.... i repeat DO NOT get a land rover...........

if she goes for the M6 dont get a vert, and the 997tt is a sexy car too. I personally think the 997 C4S is hot baller

[M5Beast]

But dude man! You gotta see all these chill Rovers in DUB mag dawg!

*sarcasm off*

[LDadrenaline]

lol

i just priced a C4S with almost every option and its like 130k. That includes the hot baller aero package, the power package that takes it to 385 hp, and the porsche ceramic composite brakes.

[M5Beast]

yeah we're looking at 120-130k for selling her escalade and bojangles... and then just the 65 range for just trading her lade in

[LDadrenaline]

see so the C4S is perfect. The 997tt is way more with all the options. And you need the options. THe car is just ghey without the PCCBs power package and aero kit

[Roy]

do not.... i repeat DO NOT get a land rover...........
What's wrong with Rovers?

[M5Beast]

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/10246/road-test-review-2006-land-rover-range-rover-sport-supercharged.html

It seems really nice... and I watched Clarkson rip it offroad lol! Its not another SUV that can't go offroad... 390 hp and 410 lbs of torque. Sounds like it could be upgraded very nicely too :) It has the manumatic shifting which is ghey but better than just Auto, and it starts at 58,000. Will take extensive time looking, but have been busy lately trying to get the fikses worked out on the M5, and not this flat tire on Bojangles bah!

[Roy]

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtests/10246/road-test-review-2006-land-rover-range-rover-sport-supercharged.html

It seems really nice... and I watched Clarkson rip it offroad lol! Its not another SUV that can't go offroad... 390 hp and 410 lbs of torque. Sounds like it could be upgraded very nicely too :) It has the manumatic shifting which is ghey but better than just Auto, and it starts at 58,000. Will take extensive time looking, but have been busy lately trying to get the fikses worked out on the M5, and not this flat tire on Bojangles bah!
The supercharged one goes for about 70K.. I would know, I was just at a dealership two weeks ago.
But the s/c'd rover is sweet, it's got a little kick to it, but nothing crazy, it wasn't really meant for all out performance. It rides great, interior was awesome and the suspension on them are incredible.. Go check them out if your looking for an suv, they are pretty sweet.

[LDadrenaline]

IT'S A ROVER HOW CAN IT EVER BE MEANT FOR ALL OUT PERFORMANCE!?!?!?!?!??!

[AwesomeBMW]

IT'S A ROVER HOW CAN IT EVER BE MEANT FOR ALL OUT PERFORMANCE!?!?!?!?!??!
:lmao: but the current Range Rover was designed by BMW...

[LDadrenaline]

who cares!? I take sh!ts that have looked better than chris bangle's designs!

[M5Beast]

Yeah it has some nice Brembos, Great Suspension, and does one hell of a nice job offroad as well. Thanks for the input Roy, My mom thought it seemed nice, I'll have to go see them with her

[M5Beast]

ugh, now my dad wants to trade his hummer H1 for something else, since the neighbor got a H1 with a roof rack, lightbar, wheels, sound system, and my dad is pissed cause it makes his look ghey lolol

[kelso]

tell your dad to quit worrying about the neighbors

[AwesomeBMW]

ugh, now my dad wants to trade his hummer H1 for something else, since the neighbor got a H1 with a roof rack, lightbar, wheels, sound system, and my dad is pissed cause it makes his look ghey lolol
then tell your dad to do him one better, do all of that stuff and then get it jacked up 3 inches with bigger tires and a really loud exhaust system and cold air induction :woot:

[M5Beast]

lol thats exactly what I thought... Jack it up! lol, but the hummer has been giving us alot of problems lately. A/C needs to be replaced, Fuel pump had to be replaced. I love the truck, its now a classic peice of Americana, but... change is nice lol

[TheDarkSide]

Rover FTW...not that BMW is far ahead :roll::

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/charts/2006082a.gif

[M5Beast]

lol! I always though J.D. was kinda ghey anyways

[TheDarkSide]

Well they are not even JD tests, they are actual numbers submitted by the dealers.

[Garrett M]

Rover FTW...not that BMW is far ahead :roll::

http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/charts/2006082a.gif


...if thats true why is Porsche at the top of the list?

[TheDarkSide]

Porsche and Lexus have always been at top

[AzzMan]

ugh, now my dad wants to trade his hummer H1 for something else, since the neighbor got a H1 with a roof rack, lightbar, wheels, sound system, and my dad is pissed cause it makes his look ghey lolol

Damn bro are you the only person in the whole family with cool cars?

[Roy]

...if thats true why is Porsche at the top of the list?
Because Porsche's relability is pretty good, there quality has increased for the past few years..

[LDadrenaline]

also you have to look at how many cars they have out. Some companies have many more cars out and increase their chances of problems. Porsches have always been very well maintained cars. I can't see why mercedes isnt lower though, everyone says they have quite a few breakdowns and some of the worst customer service of all the companies

[TheDarkSide]

MB always buys the cars out so they are not reported. mbsucks.com read the stories ;)

[TheDarkSide]

nevermind the site is gone I guess unless I remember it wrong...

[Roy]

also you have to look at how many cars they have out. Some companies have many more cars out and increase their chances of problems. Porsches have always been very well maintained cars. I can't see why mercedes isnt lower though, everyone says they have quite a few breakdowns and some of the worst customer service of all the companies
They certainly have less of an amount of vehicles out on the road as compared to others, lexus/ford/GM/infiniti/kia/mb etc..

But cayenne's, boxsters, and regular 996/997 carrera's are quite popular. everytime I'm on the road for more than a few minutes, I'll always see a few..

There's more out there than you think.

[LDadrenaline]

yeah I know that's true.... I was just saying in general some of the higher up companies may be a little decieving. Like Dave said with MB

[AwesomeBMW]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15190116/

by this article BMW is the best out there...

"Overall, BMW AG outperformed all companies, including Honda, but because it sells only luxury vehicles and the Mini sports coupe and convertible, it is not considered a full-line automaker"

and according to a German car magazine, BMW drivers have more sex
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4891758/

[David A]

and according to a German car magazine, BMW drivers have more sex
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4891758/

Well we know this one is false...you prove that. :flip:

[Roy]

Well we know this one is false...you prove that. :flip:
:owned:

[LDadrenaline]

ouch, low blow

[LDadrenaline]

actually i almost forgot... josh you did say you had that girlfriend that liked screwing. so maybe it is true

[AwesomeBMW]

actually i almost forgot... josh you did say you had that girlfriend that liked screwing. so maybe it is true
:realmad:

[aeryk7]

I wouldnt mind one for a daily, but i also wouldnt mind a track car as a daily soo maybe im not a good example


Tell here to go get an Aston Martin DB9 with the v12 or.........


http://photos.innersource.com/media/9213/l/Aston-Martin-DB9-Coupe.jpg






The Vantage with the V8 ,these car look amazing.

http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/magazine/images/2006Aston-MartinVantageBeautySide01.jpg

[M5Beast]

:( You don't know how much I love the new DB9s, I'd like to "make a sexy time" with it lol.... lol its already been done, too pricey, my mom is getting something cheaper, but my dad is taking my truck and his hummer and we're trying to find something he likes

[SlickShift]

Well we know this one is false...you prove that. :flip:

:lol:

[TheDarkSide]

Play nice in here bitches and keep to topic :nono:

[SlickShift]

Dave is laying down the law today...

On-topic:

M6 Vert: :thumbd:

997TT: :thumbu:

[David A]

Play nice in here bitches and keep to topic :nono:

Sorry...:(

:cheers:

[TheDarkSide]

ok :hug:

[LDadrenaline]

dave with the save!

[kelso]

hey ryan if you want them cleaned up before the trade, gimme a ring;)

oh and yes i got a new polisher because of the old one overheating like it did at your house, so i can do the whole thing this time lol

[TheDarkSide]

:woot2: For new polishers!

[kelso]

haha yea the fucker burned the shit outta my hand when i used it on the m5, and then again on your m3. got it replaced for freeeeee

[chris]

Dude what about the Aston Martin V8 Vantage!!! Those are only $110k. And so much more pimp than a 997 or m6. sorry floridagerman - but the british have a good thing going on that one. I can't think of anything else they've gotten right though...

http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10085_WCZXWUTEUIUOJ.jpg (javascript:window.close();)

[944attack]

Dude what about the Aston Martin V8 Vantage!!! Those are only $110k. And so much more pimp than a 997 or m6. sorry floridagerman - but the british have a good thing going on that one. I can't think of anything else they've gotten right though...


stone buildings perhaps? :lol:

[E31]

I do like the DB9 Vanquish. There is one that I see driving around the East Lake area once in a while....looks bad ass and more classy than the 997.

[M5Beast]

I love it, after the 575 Maranello the DB9/Vanquish/Vantage is my favorite... its such a sexy car even if its not as quick as some M models

[SlickShift]

Aston Martin is making some fine looking cars for once. I think they used to look way too much like Jags.

[AzzMan]

Aston probably make the classiest cars around, not the fastest or the rarest but the classiest.

[sublimefan86]

dude if she is going to be riding rapper rims than she should get...

... a 1967 chevy :lol:

[kelso]

who doesnt like the new astons? those are beautiful cars that make beautiful noises and are very quick indeed not the fastest but theyre up there.

[AwesomeBMW]

... a 1967 chevy :lol:
nah more along the lines of a 57 Bel Air or a mid 60's Impalla

[chris]

Its a shame that the new Jag is trying so hard to look like the astons. Why can't they be original??? Give us another true Shag-mobile, that doesn't break down this time!!!

[kelso]

i never liked jags... old ones werent good looking IMO and they were very cramped and uncomfy, and not too sporty. newer ones are more sporty and comfy but i still just dont care for them...

[AzzMan]

That's the thing about the Astons tho, they don't NEED to be fast! Same reason I sort of want to keep my 318- doesn't matter how fast a car is if it's a pimp-ass ride.

[DeafBimmerDude007]

My mom likes the M6 convertible, but shes always wanted a Carrera, so she wants me to take her to test drive the 997TT... Comments, concerns, suggestions? Shes trading in her Escalade and Mr. Bo-jangles for her new car

Also would you suggest Bert Smith over Reeves? I know of this debate but never heard consensus of people trying Bert Smith or having experience there...

i just read this thread
i dont kno anything about porsche for now but i kno the 997TT is a gorgeous lookin car and i kno theyre fast as hell...

anyway man the last time i went to the Reeves(BMW Dealership), i was askin a lot of questions about the M6... he was tellin me about they only get 6 M6 per year
and also if you want to buy the M6, you're gonna be on the waitin list.. he said its take 4 years to wait to get it... if your mom dont want to wait, then i guess she gonna have to find another car unless if she dont mind buyin a used M6
Im not soo quite sure about this but thats what he told me... if u want to contact him, its 813-739-5027 and his name is Tim... ask him anything about M6 and see whats up... i dont know if hes still workin there cuz i havent talk to him since i think last May

Aston Martin is always been a gorgeous lookin car for a while but ive heard theres so many mechanical problems and theres always an oil leakin problems.... Plus i know the facts that almost all newer Aston Martin cars are pretty heavy than i thought

Maserati cars r fuckin nice as hell... i went to the Maserati Dealerships once and holy fuckin cow theres soo fuckin nice.. i dont know much about Maserati but i heard theyre good tho...

P.S. if im wrong about what i heard in rumors, let me know cuz i would love to know:headbang:

[AzzMan]

I really doubt it's a 4 year waiting list. Maybe a year, but 4 is nuts.

[DeafBimmerDude007]

I really doubt it's a 4 year waiting list. Maybe a year, but 4 is nuts.

I KNOW!!!! I TOTALLY AGREED WITH YOU!!! 4 years waitin list is way too insane.

[LDadrenaline]

i didnt even know they made a M6 vert. I like the 6 series coupe, but the vert looks horrid

[AzzMan]

I like the vert, especially from the back.

I'm a crazy man.

[LDadrenaline]

ugh, i think it looks horrible from the back. The rear window is the uglies tthing EVAR

[TheDarkSide]

:ditto:

[AzzMan]

It's just like the newer Ferrari ones!

[Garrett M]

Its a shame that the new Jag is trying so hard to look like the astons. Why can't they be original??? Give us another true Shag-mobile, that doesn't break down this time!!!

Ford

[DeafBimmerDude007]

Ford

Ford are sooo ghey

[Garrett M]

Ford are sooo ghey
No

They just can't make appealing cars. Aside from the GT and 03-04 Cobras I havent seen stock Ford that I like at all.

[AzzMan]

Not counting Saleen I imagine.


I really don't think there ARE any, maybe some 60s Mustang, that's about it.