04 cobra challenge

[silver-e34]

ok so who here has what it takes to beat a 04 cobra with a pulley 14psi boost and chip and roughly 520hp to the wheels. he claims he will rape any bmw in the 1/4 anybody up to the challenge ?:eek:

[LDadrenaline]

yeah BMW on BB will... hes somewhere around 800 whp. I think you need to find someone in an xi to rape his a$s with an awd launch :)


edit: a modded xi of course lol

[AwesomeBMW]

no you dont need a modded Xi LD... but you will need an E30 M3 and a decent amount of power... remember American cars are quick in the 1/4's, most foriegn cars slow down once they hit 60...

[LDadrenaline]

im just saying though that all that power just gets spun off.... an awd system is more efficient at putting the power down, making the car faster in the 1/4 mile since the weight isn't as big of an issue

[AwesomeBMW]

im just saying though that all that power just gets spun off.... an awd system is more efficient at putting the power down, making the car faster in the 1/4 mile since the weight isn't as big of an issue
but with any AWD system it makes the car heavier so you need about 20-30 more hp to offset the weight...

[silver-e34]

yea i posted on bb as well now we will see who will take the challenge i just wanna shut this guy up :chair:

[LDadrenaline]

i assure you an xi with 500 hp would beat a cobra with 520

[AwesomeBMW]

i assure you an xi with 500 hp would beat a cobra with 520
i seriously doubt it...

[LDadrenaline]

nah, you shouldve seen me at the drag strip.... even with pretty bad launches, i was keeping even with cars at over 300 hp at least halfway down the track. Unless this cobra guy has some kind of slicks, he wont be able to beat the awd launch

[silver-e34]

i seriously doubt it...its possible if it has the proper gear ratio

[LDadrenaline]

i think you highly underestimate awd cars.... say your 0-60 time is 6 seconds and we assume that up to 60 you get 10 mph per second. If you're spinning the tires for a second or two, thats 10-20 mph that the awd car will be at before you even get traction

[kelso]

ok find a modded xi in the area.... there arent any that i know of....so thtas out even though awd launches good.

typical domestic **** talkers...

[LDadrenaline]

lol yeah there arent many xi's..... what about the X3 and X5?? arent those awd? haha pwn em with an SUV and he'd be pissed

[kelso]

lol only modded one i know of is that european one with....v10? v12? i dunno it was something big and that thing was fast!

[LDadrenaline]

get him!

[kelso]

me and him are good buddies so i know he'll come to florida for a race, gimme a minute to ask...

[LDadrenaline]

muahaha i cant wait to see a cobra get completely pwnt (:bukkake:) by an SUV

[AwesomeBMW]

he would get owned by that V-10 or V-12 X5 that BMW built... i cant remember what engine it was but it had like 700hp or something like that...

[Kevlar]

How about a Stage 2 or Stage 3 AA Supercharged M3? I would think that could hold its own against a 520 WHP Cobra. Or what about that 500+ HP turbo 4-door Dakar Yellow E36 M3? That must be pretty quick.

[silver-e34]

How about a Stage 2 or Stage 3 AA Supercharged M3? I would think that could hold its own against a 520 WHP Cobra. Or what about that 500+ HP turbo 4-door Dakar Yellow E36 M3? That must be pretty quick.yea but do the owners have the balls to do it is the question :rant:

[Roy]

yea but do the owners have the balls to do it is the question :rant:
Hahahah Gus you're awesome..

500hp Xi's? They'd probably snap differentials etc..

I don't think stage 3's really exist, there's one road going version, off road only of course. But he's selling it. Red M3 making 500+whp, that's out in Cali I think.
After that, you'd need a seriously tuned m3. Gutted, supercharged, ltw everything, great driver, and modded to all of hell's glory. Oh and some neon's too.
Modded Cobra's are fast as hell that's for sure..
Tell him to take on a new Z06 or something. haha

[silver-e34]

Hahahah Gus you're awesome..

500hp Xi's? They'd probably snap differentials etc..

I don't think stage 3's really exist, there's one road going version, off road only of course. But he's selling it. Red M3 making 500+whp, that's out in Cali I think.
After that, you'd need a seriously tuned m3. Gutted, supercharged, ltw everything, great driver, and modded to all of hell's glory. Oh and some neon's too.
Modded Cobra's are fast as hell that's for sure..
Tell him to take on a new Z06 or something. hahahes got it in for bimmers because he saw my project so now he claims no bimmer can beat him and hes pretty much stock other than a pulley and chip and i see his argument but i will shut him up when im done but i wanna put a little dent in his confidence for now ;)

[Roy]

hes got it in for bimmers because he saw my project so now he claims no bimmer can beat him and hes pretty much stock other than a pulley and chip and i see his argument but i will shut him up when im done but i wanna put a little dent in his confidence for now ;)
Whats your project?? If you don't wanna to release that info in the public. Then PM me with details. I wanna hear about it.

[silver-e34]

Whats your project?? If you don't wanna to release that info in the public. Then PM me with details. I wanna hear about it.yes sirrrrrrrrrrr! pmed

[944attack]

i actually heard about this guy tonight before reading this thread. He goes to the meets out in Clearwater right? Supposidly he whooped either a silver or laguna-blue e46 supercharged m3. This is only what i've heard from someone who goes out to the meets. I know they had a meet tonight, I was going to go but didnt get a chance, anyone know if this is the same person and if anything happened out there?

[SlickShift]

I don't think stage 3's really exist, there's one road going version, off road only of course. But he's selling it. Red M3 making 500+whp, that's out in Cali I think.
After that, you'd need a seriously tuned m3. Gutted, supercharged, ltw everything, great driver, and modded to all of hell's glory. Oh and some neon's too.

I've seen the guy on E46F. The car is crazy...stage 2 supercharged plus a 150 shot of nitrous or something. That car is nice! :bow:

[AwesomeBMW]

see i love the enthusiasm of the American car guys, my brother is the same way... but why dont he and a stock E36 M3 go out and do a real mans race on a race track? gee i wonder what would happen then:rofl:

[kelso]

huh? a stock e36 m3 vs a modded 04 cobra? i dont get it? hows that a race

[Kevlar]

As in, on a road course, not the drag strip.

[kelso]

ohh ok... that would be a decent race... e6 would pwn through corners but the moostang would tear it up on the straights

[ben]

i actually heard about this guy tonight before reading this thread. He goes to the meets out in Clearwater right? Supposidly he whooped either a silver or laguna-blue e46 supercharged m3. This is only what i've heard from someone who goes out to the meets. I know they had a meet tonight, I was going to go but didnt get a chance, anyone know if this is the same person and if anything happened out there?

I dont know of any FI'd E46 M3's in the Tampa area. If you find someone please tell them to come to the forums... i havent even seen a laguna blue e46 m3 around here anyway.

there is a guy in orlando who recently got his m3 SC'd, laguna seca blue, believe his nickname on cfbmw.org is smurf.

[ben]

I've seen the guy on E46F. The car is crazy...stage 2 supercharged plus a 150 shot of nitrous or something. That car is nice! :bow:

that is tazam3 (e46fanatics.com), his car has active stage III+, and is right now the fastest e46 m3 in the world (at least the fastest car we 'know' of with a 1/4 timeslip of 11.972). He puts down 563whp w/nitrous. The track he ran his time at totally blows too, so i believe he should be low 11s at a decent track if not better.

[AwesomeBMW]

ohh ok... that would be a decent race... e6 would pwn through corners but the moostang would tear it up on the straights
and see thats mt point that it will only take a 10 yr old BMW to beat him in a real race :rofl:

[ben]

and see thats mt point that it will only take a 10 yr old BMW to beat him in a real race :rofl:

10 year? The e36 m3 debuted in 1992, so that makes it 14 years old. ;)

[kelso]

i thought the m3 came out later? like 95?

[ben]

i thought the m3 came out later? like 95?

Mabye in the US.

[Cokewell]

The E36 must have been designed in 1990-1991. Another reason they rock.

[David A]

Hmm...lots and lots of crap in this thread...with a few facts...

Anyway, E30 M3 running with a 500+ hp Cobra - no way. The S14 isn't the kind of engine you look to for high horsepower. They did make a supercharger for it (and it still wasn't THAT fast) but unless you do a motor swap, the E30 M3 isn't going to do anything to that Cobra.

Next...Xi's can only take about 300ish AWHP...the transfer case simply cannot take that much power...and as for the driveshafts, they are stronger than you think!

The E46 M3 is a god damn pig. I hate how people make it out to be the fastest BMW EVAARRRZZZ11111!!!! *enter E46Fanatic fanboi*

"Dawg, wez got dis m3 e46 so fast man...so fukin' fast...I swear it'll break yo neck."

Anyway, the E46 M3, in its own right, is a great car. Now, it's not meant to go THAT fast in a straigh line...and even though it can break into the 11's, it takes about $25,000 just to get there...and once you do, you've lost the whole reason you own that M3 - the over all package. At that point, it's just a stripped down chassis, body and engine.

Besides...we could take a 5.0 and put $7,500 and have it running low 11's all day long...

JMWeb had that Stage 3 and I'm pretty sure Taza recently had his spec'd up to stage 3.


Anyway, if there is any car to run against that Cobra (that will give it a nice beating), it's any S50/S52 FI car - MCoupe/Roadster, E36 M3...or even some of those S38 cars...(Like that M5 that runs mid 9's.) E30's are good too...M20 FI done well or S50/52 swaps + FI wouldn't be too hard to take on the Cobra...

Just my take on things...

[silver-e34]

Hmm...lots and lots of crap in this thread...with a few facts...

Anyway, E30 M3 running with a 500+ hp Cobra - no way. The S14 isn't the kind of engine you look to for high horsepower. They did make a supercharger for it (and it still wasn't THAT fast) but unless you do a motor swap, the E30 M3 isn't going to do anything to that Cobra.

Next...Xi's can only take about 300ish AWHP...the transfer case simply cannot take that much power...and as for the driveshafts, they are stronger than you think!

The E46 M3 is a god damn pig. I hate how people make it out to be the fastest BMW EVAARRRZZZ11111!!!! *enter E46Fanatic fanboi*

"Dawg, wez got dis m3 e46 so fast man...so fukin' fast...I swear it'll break yo neck."

Anyway, the E46 M3, in its own right, is a great car. Now, it's not meant to go THAT fast in a straigh line...and even though it can break into the 11's, it takes about $25,000 just to get there...and once you do, you've lost the whole reason you own that M3 - the over all package. At that point, it's just a stripped down chassis, body and engine.

Besides...we could take a 5.0 and put $7,500 and have it running low 11's all day long...

JMWeb had that Stage 3 and I'm pretty sure Taza recently had his spec'd up to stage 3.


Anyway, if there is any car to run against that Cobra (that will give it a nice beating), it's any S50/S52 FI car - MCoupe/Roadster, E36 M3...or even some of those S38 cars...(Like that M5 that runs mid 9's.) E30's are good too...M20 FI done well or S50/52 swaps + FI wouldn't be too hard to take on the Cobra...

Just my take on things...:ditto: now who here has one and the balls to go with it ?

[SlickShift]

Nice writeup David A. I just registered on bfc...I'll have to make an intro.

[AwesomeBMW]

10 year? The e36 m3 debuted in 1992, so that makes it 14 years old. ;)
oh i was talking mainly about the 96 M3 bc it came with a little more torque and the new engine

[collin41899]

what about one of those v12 850i? modified?

[AwesomeBMW]

Hmm...lots and lots of crap in this thread...with a few facts...

Anyway, E30 M3 running with a 500+ hp Cobra - no way. The S14 isn't the kind of engine you look to for high horsepower. They did make a supercharger for it (and it still wasn't THAT fast) but unless you do a motor swap, the E30 M3 isn't going to do anything to that Cobra.

Next...Xi's can only take about 300ish AWHP...the transfer case simply cannot take that much power...and as for the driveshafts, they are stronger than you think!

The E46 M3 is a god damn pig. I hate how people make it out to be the fastest BMW EVAARRRZZZ11111!!!! *enter E46Fanatic fanboi*

"Dawg, wez got dis m3 e46 so fast man...so fukin' fast...I swear it'll break yo neck."

Anyway, the E46 M3, in its own right, is a great car. Now, it's not meant to go THAT fast in a straigh line...and even though it can break into the 11's, it takes about $25,000 just to get there...and once you do, you've lost the whole reason you own that M3 - the over all package. At that point, it's just a stripped down chassis, body and engine.

Besides...we could take a 5.0 and put $7,500 and have it running low 11's all day long...

JMWeb had that Stage 3 and I'm pretty sure Taza recently had his spec'd up to stage 3.


Anyway, if there is any car to run against that Cobra (that will give it a nice beating), it's any S50/S52 FI car - MCoupe/Roadster, E36 M3...or even some of those S38 cars...(Like that M5 that runs mid 9's.) E30's are good too...M20 FI done well or S50/52 swaps + FI wouldn't be too hard to take on the Cobra...

Just my take on things...

i have to agree with everything said here especially about the E46 M3... it isnt the modder that the E36 and E30's were more meant to be... i think Jake and his M Roadster could have some fun with the Cobra guy but i dont think that hed beat him unless he added some more power, but i certainly see what you are saying about the modibility of the M Coupe/Roadster and also the M5

[AwesomeBMW]

what about one of those v12 850i? modified?
from what i know you couldnt really mod it too much more than what it was, idk i could be wrong but also i think its a little too heavy...

[944attack]

what about one of those v12 850i? modified?


850ci FTW!!!


hahaha i'll let you guys know in about a week, unmodified though. AwesomeBMW is right about there being not much you can mod on an e31 engine.

[ben]

i have to agree with everything said here especially about the E46 M3... it isnt the modder that the E36 and E30's were more meant to be... i think Jake and his M Roadster could have some fun with the Cobra guy but i dont think that hed beat him unless he added some more power, but i certainly see what you are saying about the modibility of the M Coupe/Roadster and also the M5

Now that the E46 M3 production run is over and warranties are ending on many of the cars you'll see more modding. They'll be cheaper and the aftermarket for them is going to improve (at least i hope so). Only time will tell... there are very few people pushing the S54 when it comes to FI, but there are other companies entering the market now (VF engineering, horsepowerfreaks) to compete with AA so things should get interesting.

[LynxZ3r0]

Yeah, I couldn't handle a 500whp Cobra.. ~400 quite likely.

I took a 300whp slightly modded GT when I was bone stock.

Edit: I'd totally destroy him in the twisties, though. Unless he has a LOT of $$ in his suspension.

[Roy]

Now that the E46 M3 production run is over and warranties are ending on many of the cars you'll see more modding. They'll be cheaper and the aftermarket for them is going to improve (at least i hope so)
Me too buddy. Me too..

[AwesomeBMW]

Now that the E46 M3 production run is over and warranties are ending on many of the cars you'll see more modding. They'll be cheaper and the aftermarket for them is going to improve (at least i hope so). Only time will tell... there are very few people pushing the S54 when it comes to FI, but there are other companies entering the market now (VF engineering, horsepowerfreaks) to compete with AA so things should get interesting.
im sure it will bc wasnt the E36 M3 the same??? and rumor has it that the reason BMW made the new 335i a Twin-Turbo I-6 was so that people could mod it really well and get the E36 amount of power and fun out of the engine... at least thats what ive heard through the grapevine...

but im positive that the E46 M3 will become more of a true modders car bc it is done and over with...

[ben]

im sure it will bc wasnt the E36 M3 the same??? and rumor has it that the reason BMW made the new 335i a Twin-Turbo I-6 was so that people could mod it really well and get the E36 amount of power and fun out of the engine... at least thats what ive heard through the grapevine...

but im positive that the E46 M3 will become more of a true modders car bc it is done and over with...

Working with the BMW ecu's is not mod-friendly and this is what is holding back development of a turbo for the e46 m3 and will be holding up modding for the 335.

From all I've read and heard, the 335 was made a turbo to compete with offerings from other manufacturers in the hp/tq department, while maintaining good gas mileage, without having to developt a completely new motor.

[JCapelo]

How would a e60 m5 hold up against a cobra?

[silver-e34]

Yeah, I couldn't handle a 500whp Cobra.. ~400 quite likely.

I took a 300whp slightly modded GT when I was bone stock.

Edit: I'd totally destroy him in the twisties, though. Unless he has a LOT of $$ in his suspension.the 520whp is not confirmed cause it hasnt been dynoed but all he has is a pulley and chip i think he was just trying to intimidate people and it looks like its working.

[silver-e34]

somebody pleasy tell me out of all the s h i t we talk about american cars nobody has the balls to shut one up when the challenge comes up :eek:

[944attack]

somebody pleasy tell me out of all the s h i t we talk about american cars nobody has the balls to shut one up when the challenge comes up :eek:

it's all about drag vs. road course. If you want a car for fast drag, you buy an American car, mustang as an example; and if you want a car that's fast around a track, most any BMW is a top choice.


My car will whoop up on mustangs and camaro's all day at the autocross, but I'm screwed by a LONG shot if I ever tried to drag race one.

One of my good friends has a 2.3T mustang that will RAPE my ass in a straight line, but cant take a single turn fast for sh!t.


That's my reasoning. :thumbu:

[silver-e34]

dont forget the cobra has irs so set up correctly it will give any european car a run for its money in the road course or autox

[LDadrenaline]

damn i go to reeves for a few hours and theres 2 pages of posts..... um about the 8 series thing, if you replace the internals you can up the compression ratio alot (i think jake said it was 9.5:1 now and you can get it to like 11.5) and get madd sikk powaaa!!!

and yeah i didnt know how much hp the xi could handle, idk too much about the bmw awd systems since they arent built to handle tons of power (like the evo and wrx systems.... and of course hahaha the veyron)

[Gator911]

damn i go to reeves for a few hours and theres 2 pages of posts..... um about the 8 series thing, if you replace the internals you can up the compression ratio alot (i think jake said it was 9.5:1 now and you can get it to like 11.5) and get madd sikk powaaa!!!

and yeah i didnt know how much hp the xi could handle, idk too much about the bmw awd systems since they arent built to handle tons of power (like the evo and wrx systems.... and of course hahaha the veyron)
You don't know much about any AWD systems it seems to me?

[LDadrenaline]

i know subarus awd system and a little of the evo but thats about it.... in terms of "power handling", i didnt know the xi system was that weak that it can only take 300 to the wheels. There are quite a few daily driven 700 whp stis around

[Garrett M]

Theres a quiet a few E30 BMWs that run amazing times and insane HP.

For example: Fella on BFC ran a 9.95 @ 147mph on pump gas :)

[Kevlar]

Well then find one to run this Cobra!

[Garrett M]

Well then find one to run this Cobra!

post in Bfc im sure there will be a taker

[944attack]

dont forget the cobra has irs so set up correctly it will give any european car a run for its money in the road course or autox

ain't it funny how whoever has the most money wins?

[Roy]

ain't it funny how whoever has the most money wins?
Driver's abilitly can provide a giant leap.
Sure if you put a retard in a 430 F1, and michael schumacher in kia, it's obvious in straight lines etc.. But even then, a car that would be no doubt be considered a loser could win with a better driver..

I dunno, I'm just throwing that out there for no apparent reason.

[LDadrenaline]

^^ agreed

i think however that if these guys both have that much hp they probably dont race on the track much. A street car with that much hp would be such a handful on the track

[kelso]

well this is assumed to be a dragrace ... the cobra just has to push the pedal...no skill really required( launching may be the only skill needed) so this race comes down to who has a better motor

[LynxZ3r0]

Hell, I don't care... I'll run him. I'd prefer something at Bradenton, though, and on street tires (because I'm too cheap to pickup DRs).

Not saying I'll win, but if all he has is a chip and a pulley, that's about ~450whp, and that's assuming he's down to like a 2 3/4" pulley, which is about 5-6psi boost.

[silver-e34]

Hell, I don't care... I'll run him. I'd prefer something at Bradenton, though, and on street tires (because I'm too cheap to pickup DRs).

Not saying I'll win, but if all he has is a chip and a pulley, that's about ~450whp, and that's assuming he's down to like a 2 3/4" pulley, which is about 5-6psi boost.that would be correct cause he claims to be pushing 14psi thats also the figueres i came up with.i havent seen the car yet but i will look at to make sure thats all he has and then ill set it up :thumbu:

[LynxZ3r0]

that would be correct cause he claims to be pushing 14psi thats also the figueres i came up with.i havent seen the car yet but i will look at to make sure thats all he has and then ill set it up :thumbu:

Sounds good. If nothing else, should be fun. Really need a stage 2 turbo car to beat the crap out of him, he will likely slowly walk me in every gear.

Yell at Justin to hurry up and pickup his stage 2 kit, cause I ain't doing my motor anytime soon. :lol:

[silver-e34]

Sounds good. If nothing else, should be fun. Really need a stage 2 turbo car to beat the crap out of him, he will likely slowly walk me in every gear.

Yell at Justin to hurry up and pickup his stage 2 kit, cause I ain't doing my motor anytime soon. :lol:dont worry mine should be done in a about a month or 2 :think:

[LynxZ3r0]

dont worry mine should be done in a about a month or 2 :think:

Good deal :thumbu: I'll have to get a ride in that sometime. Anxious to see what yer little project puts down, after all this time waiting ;)

[Roy]

well this is assumed to be a dragrace ... the cobra just has to push the pedal...no skill really required( launching may be the only skill needed) so this race comes down to who has a better motor
A car with 350+whp takes skill to drive. Most of the time first gear will spin, and most of 2nd and sometimes 3rd depending on driver and roads.
Cobra's can lose traction quite easily even with I.R.S. It's a high powered car with a lotta low end grunt.

[silver-e34]

Good deal :thumbu: I'll have to get a ride in that sometime. Anxious to see what yer little project puts down, after all this time waiting ;)so im i unfortunately i was very sick and hospitalized for a couple of days + its not easy finding performance parts for a m20 but its coming along as soon as im 100% im back to it again

[LynxZ3r0]

so im i unfortunately i was very sick and hospitalized for a couple of days + its not easy finding performance parts for a m20 but its coming along as soon as im 100% im back to it again

I know how that works, bud. Ain't no thang ;)

I'm actually anxious for a few people's projects haha... Love seeing some local boosted BMWs :)

[catchuk]

silver-e34 any pics of your ride?

[Roy]

so im i unfortunately i was very sick and hospitalized for a couple of days + its not easy finding performance parts for a m20 but its coming along as soon as im 100% im back to it again
what happened if you don't mind us asking??

[AwesomeBMW]

A car with 350+whp takes skill to drive. Most of the time first gear will spin, and most of 2nd and sometimes 3rd depending on driver and roads.
Cobra's can lose traction quite easily even with I.R.S. It's a high powered car with a lotta low end grunt.
thats really true of all American cars with a lot of hp... they have so much going into the turns and sometimes they push a little too hard and get really tail happy simply bc most American car guys dont know how to put their cars around a track...

[David A]

Now that the E46 M3 production run is over and warranties are ending on many of the cars you'll see more modding. They'll be cheaper and the aftermarket for them is going to improve (at least i hope so). Only time will tell... there are very few people pushing the S54 when it comes to FI, but there are other companies entering the market now (VF engineering, horsepowerfreaks) to compete with AA so things should get interesting.

That's a really good point...but we just aren't there yet, unfortunately.


How would a e60 m5 hold up against a cobra?

I was thinking about that...maybe from something like an 80 roll all the way up to 160-180ish...I think the M5's gearing would help a lot up there.

Anyway, no matter what it is, if it has 500+ whp and it's under 4,000 lbs, it's going to be pretty damn fast...really damn fast.


thats really true of all American cars with a lot of hp... they have so much going into the turns and sometimes they push a little too hard and get really tail happy simply bc most American car guys dont know how to put their cars around a track...

I hate stereotyping...I have a few Camaro and Mustang buddies that could probably outdrive 95% of this forum...and most definitely you. :roll:

Also, it only takes some well spent time and money to make any car handle well...after that, you just need to know how to drive it.

[Garrett M]

thats really true of all American cars with a lot of hp... they have so much going into the turns and sometimes they push a little too hard and get really tail happy simply bc most American car guys dont know how to put their cars around a track...

SO i guess the C6 Z06 does the N-ring in 7:40 cant take a few turns?

[silver-e34]

what happened if you don't mind us asking??i wasnt feeling good for about a month till i finally couldnt take it anymore and had to go to the emergency room last week and was diagnosed with diabetes im getting better now. im taking pills but i have to keep it under control cause my blood sugar is still to high even with pills so i guess only time will tell :shrug:

[ben]

ain't it funny how whoever has the most money wins?

Not always true -- I got my ass kicked at Sebring last weekend by Miatas :rofl:

hopefully after a few more track events that doesnt happen anymore ;)

[944attack]

Not always true -- I got my ass kicked at Sebring last weekend by Miatas :rofl:

hopefully after a few more track events that doesnt happen anymore ;)


haha i know i know...

i knew i would get BEEF for that quote haha, of course it depends a ton on driver skill and type of course and a numerous array of factors, but to me it just seems like there's not a lot of sportscars on the road today that are cheaper than mine, but then again there really isnt much slower than mine. :dunno:

[944attack]

ain't it funny how whoever has the most money wins?


i spent a total of around $1800 on my car including the car itself, as well as performance and suspension upgrades... did anyone spend more on their car and think they can't beat me in a straight line..? Come on guys I probably run like high 16's in the quarter!

HAHAHA my quote is inevitably true for meeee!!!!!! :alright:

[Roy]

i wasnt feeling good for about a month till i finally couldnt take it anymore and had to go to the emergency room last week and was diagnosed with diabetes im getting better now. im taking pills but i have to keep it under control cause my blood sugar is still to high even with pills so i guess only time will tell :shrug:
Damn Gus, I hope you feel better...
But it's good to know you got that project to help you feel better.
:thumbu:

[kelso]

you could beat me! my car was 6 grand as it is...1.8's are sooo fast:roll:

[TheDarkSide]

email some of these guys:

http://activeautowerke.com/600hp/main.php

[LDadrenaline]

wow gus sorry about that, but its good to hear that youre feeling better now!!




and yeah any car can run fast depending whos driving. I'm sure an unmodded miata (not even mazdaspeed, im talking about the 120 hp one) could run circles around you in an M3 josh... no offense to you, but its all driving. And I've seen alot of guys who have high hp cars get pwnt by lower hp guys that can drive. Like my dad was running even with a supercharged GT3 that only weighed like 2300 lbs..... i think the guy had more hp than he knew how to control.

[Kevlar]

http://activeautowerke.com/600hp/13/main.php

"Location: Florida"

:eek:

Find this guy!

[TheDarkSide]

http://activeautowerke.com/600hp/13/main.php

"Location: Florida"

:eek:

Find this guy!

"1999 MZ3 Coupe 726HP"

[ben]

"1999 MZ3 Coupe 726HP"

owner = omar = works for AA or something like that :)

[TheDarkSide]

Regardless, that is awesome.

[LDadrenaline]

wow, thats amazing power out of a roadster.... like hot sex

[TheDarkSide]

wow, thats amazing power out of a roadster.... like hot sex

Coupe

[JCapelo]

I hate stereotyping...I have a few Camaro and Mustang buddies that could probably outdrive 95% of this forum...and most definitely you. :roll:

.


I want a peace of your camaro and mustang drivers ;)

[TheDarkSide]

My buddy with a mustang had as much into suspension as he had in the motor and he was around 500 hp with turbo. It handled damn good I thought.

[David A]

I want a peace of your camaro and mustang drivers ;)

Hey...I said 95% of this forum...;)

You can still have your fun with them if you want, though. :)

[RPM Photography]

If anyone wants to loan me about 9 Grand for a Stage V Supercharger I would be more than HAPPY to take mr. Cobra

[AwesomeBMW]

I hate stereotyping...I have a few Camaro and Mustang buddies that could probably outdrive 95% of this forum...and most definitely you. :roll:

Also, it only takes some well spent time and money to make any car handle well...after that, you just need to know how to drive it.
i agree that most of them could probably out drive a lot of people including me on this forum... but still a lot of American's will get tail happy with their cars, its just simply how most of them are made...

[kelso]

bmw's get plenty tail happy, thats just driver control and how they feather the gas pedal and clutch out of turns that determines if they go straight or sideways

[944attack]

i agree that most of them could probably out drive a lot of people including me on this forum... but still a lot of American's will get tail happy with their cars, its just simply how most of them are made...


what type of racing are we talking about now?

[Garrett M]

i agree that most of them could probably out drive a lot of people including me on this forum... but still a lot of American's will get tail happy with their cars, its just simply how most of them are made...

I guess youve never driven a newer 996 or 997? Ive driven the p-car and it can very tail happy...and from what I understand the new Turbo is tail happy...

And where are you getting your facts from? Need for speed Underground?

And how are american cars made to get "tail happy?" You mean a lot of hp and rear wheel drive?

[kelso]

You mean a lot of hp and rear wheel drive?


:ditto:

[AwesomeBMW]

I guess youve never driven a newer 996 or 997? Ive driven the p-car and it can very tail happy...and from what I understand the new Turbo is tail happy...

And where are you getting your facts from? Need for speed Underground?

And how are american cars made to get "tail happy?" You mean a lot of hp and rear wheel drive?
ive never driven the P-Cars... but im more or less just speaking of the typical things you think of comparing an American car to a German or Italian car...

[Roy]

I guess youve never driven a newer 996 or 997? Ive driven the p-car and it can very tail happy...and from what I understand the new Turbo is tail happy...

And where are you getting your facts from? Need for speed Underground?

And how are american cars made to get "tail happy?" You mean a lot of hp and rear wheel drive?
Word on the p-cars Garret.

996's stick to the ground very well in my opinion.. The turbo's do get tail happy. The 997 TT was very easily put sideways. But then again, with 500lbs of torque, that's a common thing.

oh and lol @ need for speed underground.

[AwesomeBMW]

Word on the p-cars Garret.

996's stick to the ground very well in my opinion.. The turbo's do get tail happy. The 997 TT was very easily put sideways. But then again, with 500lbs of torque, that's a common thing.

oh and lol @ need for speed underground.

God i hate that game... i played it one time and gave it away thats how dumb i thought it was...

[944attack]

God i hate that game... i played it one time and gave it away thats how dumb i thought it was...


wow, you must be too cool for it.

[LDadrenaline]

yeah alot of rear wheel drive cars can get tail happy.... american cars tend to do it more im *assuming* because of the heavy front end, so once you get the weight shifted there it just kinda pivots around.


edit: but yes, im still agreeing that alot of rwd cars tend to be tailhappy

[AwesomeBMW]

yeah alot of rear wheel drive cars can get tail happy.... american cars tend to do it more im *assuming* because of the heavy front end, so once you get the weight shifted there it just kinda pivots around.


edit: but yes, im still agreeing that alot of rwd cars tend to be tailhappy
see this is basically what im trying to say... thank you LD for saying it better for me:cheers:

[AwesomeBMW]

wow, you must be too cool for it.
huh? why the sarcasm? :shrug:

[LDadrenaline]

lol everyone loves sarcasm

[kelso]

:woot: for sarcasm

[TheDarkSide]

Most cars with high torque at low RPMs get tail happy :dunno: Not just American...

[JuCo]

Most cars with high torque at low RPMs get tail happy :dunno: Not just American...

This is true....ease off the go pedal.

[LDadrenaline]

try telling that to jeff.....



NEVAR!

[JCapelo]

my car doesnt get tail happy when i launch...unless its raining, or i comand it to.

[LDadrenaline]

when you command it to..... hahahaz


did you finally get some dif wheels/tires on the back or are they still spares or whatever?

[TheDarkSide]

He es a brokin!

[JCapelo]

Im rockin contours in the back and my other in the front...

[TheDarkSide]

^ Just like I said, esa broken! JCapelo es also de winnar!

[LDadrenaline]

:50:

[David A]

Tail happy? What's that?

[kelso]

when you get a little tail, makes you very happy:boink:

[Garrett M]

Tail happy? What's that?

this guy knows what were talking about ;)

sickness

http://www.my-lawnmowers.com/images/lawn-mowers.jpg

[Bigmac834]

How bout Omar(AA Custom Turbo) with his Turbo'ed M Coupe? He is making some serious power in such a light car...Too bad he doesn't wanna race a benz..or he would be quickly owned...

[Garrett M]

How bout Omar(AA Custom Turbo)\...Too bad he doesn't wanna race a benz..or he would be quickly owned...
?

[LDadrenaline]

Garret was there supposed to be more to ur post of the guy with the lawnmower?? all i can see are 2 pics that look exactly the same

[TheDarkSide]

LD, I think he is saying how tail happy those are due to the steering.

[LDadrenaline]

oh hahaha

[Garrett M]

LD, I think he is saying how tail happy those are due to the steering.

that and a personal joke with David A

[LDadrenaline]

ah kk....

[TheDarkSide]

:)