10psi hahahahahahahahah

[The Weiner]

i laugh at 10 psi:lmao:

[LDadrenaline]

.......?? did i miss something?

[DeadSailor]

its the max psi stock penis pumps can reach

[LDadrenaline]

so thats how he gets his balls so big....

[Cokewell]

Good ol compressed air. woo hoo!

[RPM Photography]

I think I get it.

[The Weiner]

indeed i think you do sir but we will leave it at that for awhile till all losse ends are tied up.... and dude i hook a 10hp compresser up to my penis pump how do you think the weiner got so big ;)

[prophecy]

..yet another winning thread :clap:

[JonnyChimpO]

..... sean..... what have you been up too.

[Cokewell]

Yeh he's boosting something bro. It's a BMW, probably an e36.

And like he said, his cock pump.

[The Weiner]

no offense but an e36 isnt my style well the race car but thats track only

and every thread i start is a wining one is that ok with you sir?

[AwesomeSL]

i would say something here but for the first time in my life (long pause) i think im actually speechless... only Sean can produce those results well Sean and Eric Clapton if i ever met him but thats a whole different topic... again only Sean :lmao:

[Cokewell]

Boo yah for Eric Clapton

[LDadrenaline]

E36, pfft sounds something like E60 to me

[TheDarkSide]

:shhh: ;)

[944attack]

hah, 10psi is for pussies and old people. I always inflate my tires to at least 35psi.

[TheDarkSide]

Exactly! "At least!"

[SlickShift]

I run at 36psi :woot:

[JCapelo]

40psi

[kelso]

yea i think im at 40...

[TheDarkSide]

Look what you started :chair:

[LDadrenaline]

i was looking at some electronic boost controller that lets u go up to 45 psi and some retard set his boost to 45 lbs on an srt4 and completely destroyed his turbo.... then he tried to blame the company saying that they weren't clear enough on how high he could set the boost..... retard

[kelso]

i heard about that guy..... how about do some research before you start pushing the "up" button jackass

[The Weiner]

i was looking at some electronic boost controller that lets u go up to 45 psi and some retard set his boost to 45 lbs on an srt4 and completely destroyed his turbo.... then he tried to blame the company saying that they weren't clear enough on how high he could set the boost..... retard


stand alone ftw:D

[Cokewell]

Dude I hate you

[FactorX]

... 10 psi??? you got change for 20? :cheers:

[TheDarkSide]

Isn't John at 10psi? :dunno:

[M52 POWER!]

Isn't John at 10psi? :dunno:

No I think something like ~6

[TheDarkSide]

:shifty:

[M52 POWER!]

:shifty:

I totally feel you, not as cool as 10!....

[LDadrenaline]

why the hell are you guys running such low psi!?!?!?!? I mean if youre building up the car for turbo anyways, get some lower comp pistons and run 20+ psi

[JCapelo]

why dont you have a car? ^^^^

[M52 POWER!]

why the hell are you guys running such low psi!?!?!?!? I mean if youre building up the car for turbo anyways, get some lower comp pistons and run 20+ psi

Because these cars are built to be NA stock. Around 20 psi and you're pushing 700whp to the wheels already, no need for that unless you're a crazy person.....

[TheDarkSide]

LD - :chair:

[LDadrenaline]

this site is full of crazy people.... i know theyre built to be NA stock, but if youre building the car to be turbo'd, why not get lower comp pistons?? just wanna know


and i dont have a car because i wrecked it in a pole jeff..... why didnt you have a liscense for 6 months??

dee dee dee

[JCapelo]

I never lost my license for 6 months...

I had it restricted for 8...i was under 18 which means with just 2 tickets that can happen...

Not to mention i still had a car, and could still drive.....good try.

[SlickShift]

:owned:

[J_dEAl]

im not running any psi at the moment.....until i get the car to run right. then ill turn it up to around 10 because stock internals cant handle much more for very long

[kelso]

higher compression pistons run more power. if you tune it right, higher compression is where its at, not lower.

[The Weiner]

... 10 psi??? you got change for 20? :cheers:


yeah but 20 psi on a vw isnt **** you make like what 14-16 stock and i wants saying 10 was alot i was saying 12 was alot when is strapped to a higher compression former n/a 3.2 liter ;)


Isn't John at 10psi? :dunno:


ahahah ahhh dave i doubt it:D


why the hell are you guys running such low psi!?!?!?!? I mean if youre building up the car for turbo anyways, get some lower comp pistons and run 20+ psi

you really dont know how things work do you?


higher compression pistons run more power. if you tune it right, higher compression is where its at, not lower.


correct!


and john incorrect the bottom end on a s50 m3 ahs a forged crack and rods and the rods a signifigently thincker on the s50 then any other bmw 3'er its really not the bottom end you have to worry about at 10psi

[LynxZ3r0]

Pistons are generally the weak point on the M52 derived motors. OEM S52 Con Rods are stronger (but not as lightweight) than any aftermarket rod you can buy, with the exception of Verdi Rods (custom built by a Swede in his home garage, ULTRA high quality and about 4x more expensive than Arrow). Crank is bulletproof.

You can run 24psi all day long w/ meth injection on a stock compression S52. At least until the methanol runs out. ;)

Best bang for your buck on any M52 derived motor is to get a Cometic MLS headgasket to drop the compression to somewhere between 8.5 and 9.5 (.120" thick will give a 8.9-9.1 CR on a S52B32) and ARP head studs, then boost up to about 16psi. Add a simple water injection setup to kick in when the boost hits about 14psi and you can up that to about 18-19psi safely.

Anything over 20psi really requires some better pistons for longevity, but you could run the HG/Head Studs at 20psi fairly safely for quite some time, unless you got some bad gas or some bad luck.

[LynxZ3r0]

And for the record LD, the reason you don't build BMW motors all that often, is because of the cost. $10k is a pretty mild build, not including any labor costs. Add $5k for Verdi Rods. $10k will get you a ~22psi GT35R powered 500-600whp build that will likely never break. You could probably push it to 700whp, but it would be just that - pushing it.

[LDadrenaline]

oh yeah i understand the money thing, but uh.... certain people here building turbo'd cars dont have a *huge* issue with money :)


and yes, im not a dumbass i know that higher comp means more power.... but thats for NA. To run more boost you want lower compression pistons

[LynxZ3r0]

oh yeah i understand the money thing, but uh.... certain people here building turbo'd cars dont have a *huge* issue with money :)

In all honesty, anyone who drops $10k on an S52 motor build is throwing away their money, regardless of how insanely rich they are. (And yes, I was in this boat, but I am since changing my mind and deciding that the Roady may be finished. Another car, however, may not be ;) )

It's just plain stupid, unless they are building a straight drag car that they NEVER plan on driving in the rain or w/ street tires.

Less than $2k will get you a 16-18psi 450-480whp "built" motor. Head gasket, head studs, water injection. Worst case scenario you blow the headgasket, but the Cometic MLS ones are turning out to be pretty much rock solid. Very few failures w/ proper tuning and installation.

[The Weiner]

well said

[The Weiner]

oh yeah i understand the money thing, but uh.... certain people here building turbo'd cars dont have a *huge* issue with money :)


and yes, im not a dumbass i know that higher comp means more power.... but thats for NA. To run more boost you want lower compression pistons


and again not true lower compression lets you run more boost safer but makes less hp but you can run that same amount of boost with higher compression and meth like he said an make much more hp:thanks:

[LDadrenaline]

oh i didnt know about the meth injection thing.... learn something new every day lol

[The Weiner]

well it doesnt have to be meth it is just one of the ways

[kelso]

to run boost you want forged pistons, high compression is better for making power. lower compression needs higher boost to make the same power:shrug:

[LynxZ3r0]

Meth is *great* but isn't all that efficient. It basically has about 1/2 of the energy production efficiency of gasoline, however it increases the overall temperature at which the gas burns, thereby essentially increasing the octane rating of the gasoline you use. Simplified explanation, but w/e haha... It's actually detrimental to engines which are not pushing the absolute limits of their build. To use Meth on a 8psi build would actually cause a LOSS of power, but jerk that boost up to 24psi and tune it for that and it would offer a HUGE increase in power potential.

The problem, however, becomes that the car is tuned for 24psi meth injection, so running it at 8psi on the street w/o shooting meth in will make it run uber-sluggish because the computer thinks that meth should be in there.

Not a problem if you're running a stand-alone that allows seperate maps, but I personally prefer the adaptive OEM ECU, hence the reason I would never run such a system on my daily driver.

You can also run straight water injection instead of meth, but it is not as efficient at high boost levels. You can also do a mix of the 2 liquids. Those are the 2 most commonly used additives.

[The Weiner]

both of you are correct ... and lynx your running a flashed dme hrmmm i dont like that fact that you cant change stuff without anther 1000 tune thats my greddy super blue will be my friend! w00t

[LynxZ3r0]

both of you are correct ... and lynx your running a flashed dme hrmmm i dont like that fact that you cant change stuff without anther 1000 tune thats my greddy super blue will be my friend! w00t

Standalones are very nice if you like to make changes often, yes... I didn't plan on changing anything more than once, so it didn't matter to me. Nick does the tuning for $800, and will tune it as long as it takes, in as many attempts as it takes to get it right.

I had no desire to run the M50 manifold or custom cams or anything like that - I'll be going w/ the HG/Studs method and running 18psi in the future, but adding $800 on to the low price of everything else doesn't seem so bad to me.

I had originally considered going w/ a Tec3, but ended up just saying to Hell w/ it and buying Nick's kit because I didn't feel like having the car out of commission while I built up a custom setup. As far as daily drivers go, I wouldn't even bother w/ custom setups or anything more radical than a TT Stage 2 - it just isn't worth the cost and frustration level required for a daily driven car.

Now, from what I gather, your's isn't going to be a DD, so then it's not as important to you to get the thing moving ASAP, and a custom setup would likely be more fun and interesting for you. I would not consider a flashed DME if I had built a custom setup, because like you said - Many things can change very quickly when doing everything custom.

[The Weiner]

Standalones are very nice if you like to make changes often, yes... I didn't plan on changing anything more than once, so it didn't matter to me. Nick does the tuning for $800, and will tune it as long as it takes, in as many attempts as it takes to get it right.

I had no desire to run the M50 manifold or custom cams or anything like that - I'll be going w/ the HG/Studs method and running 18psi in the future, but adding $800 on to the low price of everything else doesn't seem so bad to me.

I had originally considered going w/ a Tec3, but ended up just saying to Hell w/ it and buying Nick's kit because I didn't feel like having the car out of commission while I built up a custom setup. As far as daily drivers go, I wouldn't even bother w/ custom setups or anything more radical than a TT Stage 2 - it just isn't worth the cost and frustration level required for a daily driven car.

Now, from what I gather, your's isn't going to be a DD, so then it's not as important to you to get the thing moving ASAP, and a custom setup would likely be more fun and interesting for you. I would not consider a flashed DME if I had built a custom setup, because like you said - Many things can change very quickly when doing everything custom.


yeah nick g is the **** but its either him or aa at 1000 thats why i said 1000 , 800 is close enough

[LynxZ3r0]

yeah nick g is the **** but its either him or aa at 1000 thats why i said 1000 , 800 is close enough

:thumbu: I never considered AA in my factors... after all the problems Scott is having w/ his Twin Screw it reaffirmed my belief that those guys have some sort of brain fart in tuning. They turn out a dozen badass cars w/ perfect tuning, then turn out one that is complete crap.

Nick, on the other hand, turns out nothing but good cars, because if he screws something up, he owns up to it and fixes it! AA forgets the "customer service" part of business it seems :(

[LDadrenaline]

i think standalones are a little better. The map switching capabilites make life alot easier. I know on my car I had just put on a map switching device, and it had mostly street maps. i.e. low boost and leaned out a little for fuel economy, disabling of the fuel pump for anti-theft, stock mode, and then stage 1 and stage 2 tuning depending on mods on the car.

Also standalone seems much more convenient when you might be tracking/autoXing the car. You have a map for street and a map for the track. On the street you just need a daily driver, and you'd probably get better fuel economy (no i dont give a sh!t about fuel economy normally) out of that map at 8 psi as opposed to the 24 psi race map.

[The Weiner]

yeah its easy on imports but stand alone on bmw ftl hugh pain in the ass ...but i have a problem i miss boost ...plus i wanna put a few people in line that would think a e46 325 driver is soft ...ohhh man if only they new my car roots..ahahah ps this will be turbo car #6 for me so dont sleep on me kiddies ;)

[kelso]

since i havent known you long, what else have you built out of curiosity?

[Gator911]

I love reading the posts of people who have no idea what they are talking about...

And BTW...I boost 20....FOR REAL

[FactorX]

I boost 20 as well... for real... I could probably go higher, but why bother for daily driving? especially with no aftermarket blow-off/diverter valve support yet for this new turbo design...

My car stock boosts 11-ish...

Highest boosting VW in the SRQ area runs 25 lbs... and he runs mid 13s... (1.8t engine VW GLI)

[Gator911]

I boost 20 as well... for real... I could probably go higher, but why bother for daily driving? especially with no aftermarket blow-off/diverter valve support yet for this new turbo design...

My car stock boosts 11-ish...

Highest boosting VW in the SRQ area runs 25 lbs... and he runs mid 13s... (1.8t engine VW GLI)
20psi on your 4cyl is nothing compared to 20psi on a 6cyl...

[LDadrenaline]

6 cyl also a p car.... lol

[The Weiner]

20psi on your 4cyl is nothing compared to 20psi on a 6cyl...


i've never doubted your bmw boosting talents check my sig ;) but you did crazy **** that im not willing to do with my semi daily driver :D ......... for my former cars my first turbo was an eg coupe with a b16 and a t3/t4 bolt on kit this was my learning car both the motor swap and the turbo kit were done by me even though the kit was bolt on this is were i started...i was 16 2.eg hatch ls swap custom turbo set up way to much work to list and its a honda you wont care but it put down 523 on the bottle this is where i started playing with nitrous as well as my first jump into tunning without the lame safc, i used hondata 2b. 3. mr2 turbo this car wasnt to much as it was turbo stock i swapped injectors for a mark 4 turbo supra and traded out the ct20b for another kit called the street brawler < this car was hard enough to work on so i just went with a kit along with normal turbo goodies down pipe exhaust greddy side mount intake this being a 93 was easily tunned with the safc. 4. audi a4 again another stock turbo nothing to special here big k04 turbo upgrade 225 injectors down pipe front mount exhaust intake forged dv n75 valve and software. 5. audi tt had big plans for this car but lost interest for a few reason 1 i was tired of the 1.8t after lame results with the a4 2 i missed the bimmer needless to say i had the car for 2 weeks.. i've helped many a friend with an sr20 here and there and a few hondas ..... :cheers:

[kelso]

i never owned a fast car personally but ive driven my brothers cars a bit and he is the one that taught me all about performance, and well if youve seen the 20v rabbit he's been building, you know he knows his ****;) , and ive been around it every step of the way so ive learned quite a bit, plus various other friends having turbo cars and such. i dont care for hondas, your right but thats some pretty impressive stuff

[Mr.bimmerPuck]

ok so ........blaaa

[LynxZ3r0]

Sometimes... when I'm laying awake at night.... I think of boosting 20psi...








On a small block V8.

:shhh:

Maybe I'll just take my motor out and drop it in the upcoming track car, then toss in a boosted S50B32 in the Roady... :shhh:

Oh my... I like the sound of that.

[Gator911]

6 cyl also a p car.... lol
I wish....

An M3....

[LDadrenaline]

oh haha... i keep thinking that you have the 996 turbo

[The Weiner]

no but i hear some boost is in the works for the 996 ;) i guess you never got to see keith's m post some pics keith! first off it was dakar which already made it sexy...

[LDadrenaline]

yayers! Dakar yellow is way sexy

[FactorX]

really? a 6 cyl with a turbo is different than a 4cyl? you don't say? I thought all engines were the same... :lmao:

don't worry though, my car will never beat yours, so your ego can remain intact a bit longer! :shrug:

lighten up a bit dude. :cheers:

[LDadrenaline]

yeah there are some pretty quick 4 bangers... theres an evo somewhere with like 970 whp

[Gator911]

really? a 6 cyl with a turbo is different than a 4cyl? you don't say? I thought all engines were the same... :lmao:

don't worry though, my car will never beat yours, so your ego can remain intact a bit longer! :shrug:

lighten up a bit dude. :cheers:
It's not about an ego...

I didnt even compare your car to mine. I compared your 4cyl and 20psi to a 6cyl and 20psi...

It isn't the same. I never even claimed a thing about my car in this thread:dunno:

I just was pointing out that you werent comparing apples to apples.:shrug:

There are many 4cyl with insane horspower. When i think of Turbo 4bangers i always think of the 4cyl bmw turbo that put out over 1200 HP and whose engine layout they built their headquarters in germany after

[Gator911]

no but i hear some boost is in the works for the 996 ;) i guess you never got to see keith's m post some pics keith! first off it was dakar which already made it sexy...


Here are some for the Newbs around here...

http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Best%20Dyno.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20003.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20005.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20006.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20008.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20010.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/Turbo%20Project/Turbo%20Tuning%20011.jpg
http://plaza.ufl.edu/keith3/My%20Car/BMW/New%20Rims%20010.jpg

[LDadrenaline]

whats with the torque at the beginning?

[M3Stoner]

Wheel slip or just rough shifting into 4th?? Dunno

[TheDarkSide]

Damn keith, bet you miss it man :(

[Gator911]

whats with the torque at the beginning?
I was spinning the wheels on the dyno...Also, because of how tight it was strapped down, the was rubbing my tires at full torque...

Not to mention a shaky tach signal...

(it all means a lower dyno number then it should of to me:))

BTW, this was in 103degree and 85% humidity

[LDadrenaline]

dayum..... i always wanted to build a car like that but then i realized its unreasonable as a street car. heh you can always have a track car :)

[youknowwho]

my untuned nissan at 10psi will take a dump on your m3

[LDadrenaline]

hahaha yay we have another funny person! the forums get so dull sometimes, i love it when someone brings in the humor

[944attack]

my untuned nissan at 10psi will take a dump on your m3

skyline?

[Gator911]

my untuned nissan at 10psi will take a dump on your m3
Congratulations bench racer

[SlickShift]

:ban:

[TheDarkSide]

I hate threads that are over my head :(

[JuCo]

skyline?

wouldn't matter......

[Orion ZyGarian]

+1 for a turbo on an inline 6....I've got 18psi on my Supra! It runs still yes.

And its on the stock fuel system, so its gotta be bs..how I can run 18psi without detonation, tuning, any aftermarket fuel stuff etc. is beyond me. Unless if the previous owner was lying when he said he only ran 8 psi because it was stock...but when I got it, it was set at 18!

Yeah but my comp ratio is 8.4:1...so thats how I do it lol. It is about 3x more than stock though